Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id LAA05190 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:45:49 GMT Message-ID: <570E2BEE7BC5A34684EE5914FCFC368C10FBAF@fillan> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Cultural traits and vulnerability to memes Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:38:51 -0000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Filter-Info: UoS MailScan 0.1 [D 1] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> >"determinism" is both true and at the same time completely without
> >application in our lives.
>
Seems sort of right to me. Saying that the range of our potential
behaviours are determined, does not mean that individual behaviours at
particular points in time are determined. Someone who is tall with good
eye-to-hand co-ordination need not play basketball if they don't want to.
Mind you, even if the social environment indicates to that individual that
social success will be achieved through their playing basket ball so they
play bball and become the next Michael Jordan, they will probably say it was
what they always wanted to do.
There is some application then in recognising the true limits of free will,
and the extent to which 'I was only obeying orders' is a legitimate defence.
Apologies for the posts today if they're a little out of it- a combination
of an unwise post-2am stint on Metal Gear Solid 2 [playstation 2 game FYI;
Poole's 'Tigger Happy' briefly referes to video games as meme machines BTW],
and a 9am seminar on journalism and politics neither of which I've quite
recovered from yet!
I need another cup of tea (coffee is for Americans :-)).
Vincent
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