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Hi Jeremy Bradley -
>determinism is the theory that behaviours are 'hardwired' into
>us.
Yes.
But some behaviors are also algorithmic reactions, like the spider web-
it is hardwired, in that the spider must make it, and to a degree follow
a pattern, but the actual web itself is different every time.
From a certain vantage, this web might appear to be 'programmable', as
input from the environment is very much required for the full operation
of the program, and the requirement for input is a programming function.
As such, there is no reason, and no-one has presented an unequivocable
one, for culture to not be just such a hardwired, input-requiring set of
algorithms.
It's just that part of the input for homo sapiens is also other products
of these algorithms.
And I call the performance of these products memes, and others call the
products themselves memes, and others call the processes happening in the
brain memes, and others call all of these things memes, but, regardless,
no-one has shown any proof for any of them.
Hardwiring is not a defense against variance. And programs are hardwired.
And evolution is a system of developing hardwiring.
- Wade
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