Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id AAA01356 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 11 Mar 2002 00:14:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.110.248.206] From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Rumsfeld Says.... Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:08:39 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <LAW2-F5Dd3OJXsNQptg0000cae0@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2002 00:08:39.0962 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5D127A0:01C1C890] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
> > Subject: Re: Rumsfeld Says....
> >
> > - ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steve Drew <srdrew_1@hotmail.com>
> >> Exactly. Its the memes they have taken on board over time.
>Unfortunately,
> >> once taken on they are dificult to lose. IMO it takes rational
>decisions
> > to
> >> make a choice. rational decisions are undermined by the emotional
> > attachment
> >> that we attach to certain memes.
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > Exactly ! Our own funny moods about zionism, semitism and racism are
> > blocking our ways_ the historical events of WO II makes us emotional
> > attached/ bounded with the Jews and thus with Israel ( not with the
>Pales-
> > tinians) in such a way that we don 't dare to be against Jews.
> > And by the way, here atleast in Belgium, it is by law forbidden to be
> > anti- Jews or to be anti- semitic. The government is choosing the memes
> > for us !
> >
> > And, no offence intented ( this is hot issue), in that way, keeping the
> > historical events in mind, we don 't dare to point our finger towards
> > Israel and condemn them.... and I don 't mean some obscure resolution
> > in the VN which will be blocked by the US !
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kenneth
>
>What offence?
>
>When Israeli troops shoot women and children, investigation must follow,
>and
>it should be shouted out loud. This applies to any country that uses
>violence indiscriminately against non-combatants. That means in this case
>both Israel and the Palestinians, though it applies to many places in the
>world.
>
>I read an interesting article in The New York Times about how the deaths of
>muslims in Israel are reported compared to the deaths of muslims in India
>or
>Iraq, wAich suggests that it has a lot to do with the relative powerlesnes
>of the arab world compared to Israel.
>
>www.nytimes.com/2002/03/06/opinion/06FRIE.html
>
>regards
>
>Steve
While watching TV last night it struck me that most of the people running
the country of Israel have the physical features of Germans and Russians.
The way they wage war also seems to be based on a European model. Even the
most orthodox Jews with the beards and funny sideburns have European
features and dress in clothes left over from 1920s Berlin, with black
fedoras and overcoats. There seems to be very little of the people who were
driven out of Israel by the Romans left in those who "returned."
Grant
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