Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id DAA28282 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:49:13 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: cheetah.nor.com.au: Host 230.digital.ppp.telstra.dataheart.net [202.147.129.230] claimed to be green-machine Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20020309143724.00737cc8@pophost.nor.com.au> X-Sender: jeremyb@pophost.nor.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 14:37:24 +1100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk From: Jeremy Bradley <jeremyb@nor.com.au> Subject: RE: Rumsfeld Says.. In-Reply-To: <B8AEB205.2CC%srdrew_1@hotmail.com> References: <200203081251.MAA26906@alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
At 08:15 PM 8/03/02 +0000, you wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 18:38:02 +1100
>> From: Jeremy Bradley <jeremyb@nor.com.au>
>> Subject: RE: Rumsfeld Says..
>>
>> At 09:55 PM 7/03/02 +0000, you wrote:
>>>
>>> Query. was there anything before the Europeans came that could have been
>>> used as transport in Australia?
>>>
>>>
>> Yes Steve
>> Feet. Do not be drawn by the meme that transport was a condition of
>> civilisation. I could well argue the opposite (lol).
>> Jeremy
>
>No, i wasn't implying that. I was musing on the effect of transport on
>violence early on. Foraging using transport greatly increases the range of
>territory that can be accessed for resources, and also brings you into
>(potentially) into contact with more groups.
>
>The Inca's did pretty well using legwork to build a civilisation.
>
>Regards
>
>Steve
>
Good point Steve. There is an idea over here, which is strongly held by
some, that wheels are the pre-requisite of civilisation, and therefore the
dispossession of the indigenous people of Aus was in some way OK. I more
hold to the view that wheels facilitated war rather than civility.
Jeremy
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