Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id VAA25464 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:13:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.117.133.84] User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 21:06:12 +0000 Subject: Re: Example of an aggresive irrational meme From: Steve Drew <srdrew_1@hotmail.com> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Message-ID: <B8AD86C3.2BF%srdrew_1@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200203061159.LAA22574@alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2002 21:08:12.0438 (UTC) FILETIME=[30DEDB60:01C1C61C] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 22:18:18 +0000
> From: Steve Drew <srdrew_1@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Example of an aggresive irrational meme
>
>> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:35:00 -0900
>> From: "Philip Jonkers" <philipjonkers@prodigy.net>
>> Subject: Re: Example of an aggresive irrational meme
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>>>> IMHO: In My Humble Opinion;
>>>> IMO: In My Opinion;
>>>> IIRC: If I Recall (Remember or perhaps Retrieve) Correctly;
>>>> LOL: Lots of Laughs;
>>>> FUBAR: Go See `Saving Private Ryan';
>>
>>> I've seen Saving Private Ryan, but don't recall FUBAR
>>
>> That's weird, because the acronym was used repeatedly and was
>> even elaborated upon by corporal Upham. Anyway, I'll quit playing around:
>> FUBAR: Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition...
>> Ring a bell?
>
> Still not I'm afraid. Not a bad film though, just not worth all the praise
> that was heaped upon it. he did much better with Band Of Brothers.
>>
>>>> ps. As for not passing on: yes it is... perhaps not to everyone but it
>> still
>>>> winded up in
>>>> my mailbox.
>>
>> Steve:
>>> Many things have transmission potential, but die due to the environment
>> they
>>> find themselves in. This one died in my environment (my brain) as i refuse
>>> to pass it on.
>>
>> It only `died out' in your mind, not in many (less rational) others....
>
> This is true. And as a rational person should you aid propagating crap? :-)
>>
>> Steve:
>>> Also IMO memes don't have traits such as aggressive or irrational any more
>>> than they have a colour, as the meme is the behaviour, rather than a
>>> possessor of the behaviour.
>>
>> Of course, qualifiers like `aggressive', 'nice' or 'selfish' pertain only to
>> decision making
>> entities. In memetics when we say a meme is aggressive, selfish we mean that
>> in a metaphorical
>> not literal way. An aggressive meme is a meme that is designed to emphasize
>> on transmission
>> rather than virtue.
>>
>> Philip.
>
> I prefer successful to aggressive. It lives or it dies. Another may be
> infectious which also does without assigning behaviours to a meme.
>
> Regards
>
> Steve
I'll correct this myself.
I just assigned a behaviour to a meme, which is what i'm am against, where
as the meme is the behaviour. so easy to do.
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