Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id XAA03349 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:24:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.117.133.84] User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:06:32 +0000 Subject: RE: Rumsfeld Says He May Drop New Office of Influence From: Steve Drew <srdrew_1@hotmail.com> To: Jom-emit <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Message-ID: <B8A1BF2B.225%srdrew_1@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2002 23:08:41.0771 (UTC) FILETIME=[882BC7B0:01C1BF1A] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:35:11 -0000
> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk>
> Subject: RE: Rumsfeld Says He May Drop New Office of Influence
>
> The fact this "new" office got reported in the New York Times is reason
> enough to disband it- how rubbish is a secret information warfare unit if it
> gets in the press before it gets going?!
>
> Of course this kind of thing already exists, and has done for years and
> years. Philip Knightly's book 'The First Casualty' offers a great
> historical sweep (recently updated to include Kosovo) of this kind of thing.
>
> Vincent
Sun Tzu advocated it many years ago (intelligence and dis-information), and
in the UK MI5/6 (can't remember which) didn't exist despite people knowing
its address, until recently.
Remember the old joke:
"How do you know a politician is lying?"
"His lips are moving."
Regards
Steve
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