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From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 5:47 PM
Subject: RE: a memetic experiment- an eIe opener
> Well, examples of pro-social propaganda might be the recent 'Kick the
Habit'
> campaign on the BBC. This was a co-ordinated series of television/radio
> programmes, and online material, and help guides, all aimed at getting
> people off drugs of various kinds (mostly cigarettes and alcohol but
illegal
> drugs also). Whilst I would contest its effects, it motives are at least
> party pro-social (although there are other motives [healthier people means
> less pressure on the healthcare system, which is publicly-owned in the
UK]).
< < I agree on the fact that it motivates people to get healthier, but could
the
series you mentioned not be another ' kick ' of and for the public !?
Recently there are (to) many emo-shows to watch !
It seems to me that ' Kick the Habit ' is like the Jerry Springer-show, but
then without the fights and without the " sensation " !
The question of course remains, if people wants to watch such shows, is it
their choise or is it due to propaganda ? And if it is propaganda what is
then
the hidden agenda !? >>
> > ----------
> > From: Wade T.Smith
> > Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 2:07 pm
> > To: memetics list
> > Subject: RE: a memetic experiment- an eIe opener
> >
> > On 05/10/00 08:57, Vincent Campbell said this-
> >
> > >whether pro-social propaganda is
> > >really what public relations is
> >
> > The answer is yes, that is almost precisely what PR is- I would mightily
> > contend with the 'pro-' condition there. Cui bono?
> >
> > One person's PR director is another person's minister of propanganda.
> >
> > A limited but disturbing facet of memetics is its inclusion into the
> > propagandist's toolbox.
> >
> > - Wade
> >
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