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From: Robin Faichney <robin@faichney.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Reborn Technology
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: Re: objections to "memes"
Date sent: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:50:41 +0000
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> On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Robert Logan wrote:
> <snip>
> >For me quarks might or
> >might not exist but using them in a model helped to explain many of the
> >regularities of high energy scattering. All we know for sure is that SU(3)
> >symmetry holds and that one can explain that in terms of quarks.
>
> I guess we can say we know for sure that patterns of human behaviour replicate
> or are replicated via imitation. Can we say that one can explain that in terms
> of memes? Or can we only restate it using memetic terminology? (Exactly which
> memetic terminology would depend on whether you think memes are in brains or
> behaviour or both, but the explanation/restatement dichotomy remains in any
> case. Doesn't it?)
>
> >Whether
> >quarks are a reality or a theoretical construct is a philosophical
> >question that science can not address.
>
> That just seems to beg to have "memes" substituted for "quarks".
>
It is not all imitation; one can listen to and follow instructions
without doing anything that the instructor is doing (only doing what
(s)he is saying).
> --
> Robin Faichney
>
>
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