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> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Joe E. Dees
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:39 PM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: Hari Seldon
>
>
> From: "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com>
> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Subject: RE: Hari Seldon
> Date sent: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:28:44 -0500
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> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk
> [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> > > Of Bruce Jones
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 12:41 PM
> > > To: 'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'
> > > Subject: RE: Hari Seldon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: Robin Faichney [SMTP:robin@faichney.demon.co.uk]
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Lawrence H. de Bivort wrote:
> > > > >Mistakes and mutations are different concepts.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > [BJ] Robin Faichney wrote:
> > > > Obviously so. But I always thought it generally accepted
> that what is a
> > > > mistake
> > > > from the "normal" perspective, if it results in a modified
> concept or
> > > > behaviour, should be considered a memetic mutation. Is
> there some other
> > > > way of
> > > > looking at this of which I'm unaware?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > [BJ] How so???
> > >
> > > If it is a mistake that an animal has the ability to run faster, fly
> > > higher or hide better than its peers and thus avoid death
> long enough to
> > > pass on its ability, then it becomes genetic and the
> difference between a
> > > mistake and a mutation is mute. Only if the mistake as in the
> > > expression of
> > > a gene that is 'anti-survival' will the concept of difference be
> > > recognized.
> >
> > Nonsense. Most mutations are not beneficial. Only some turn out
> beneficial.
> > But they are all accidental.
> >
> > Only an intelligence can make a mistake. Only the errors by intelligent
> > beings are mistakes.
> >
> > Thus, being that Mimetics has to do with the transmission of behaviors,
> > among intelligent beings, there is no distinction between mistake an
> > mutation.
> >
> Learn to spell memetics first, Aaron.
Opps! blame my spelll checker. If I'm not careful, it changes "Memetics",
which it does not recognize, into "Mimetics", which it does. --speaking of
mutation!
>Remember me? Remember
> the callous, arrogant and vicious
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Pot/kettle/black!!!
>spam attack to which you
> submitted the Virus List?
I remember no "spam attack" on my part. I never so much as tried to resell a
used book.
>Remember being enshrined for all
> perpetuity as the permanent recipient of Carl Wagener's Head Up
> Your Own Ass Award for those actions?
I unsubscribed to Virus, with no regret. But when hate email from the CoV on
the Virus list actually pursued me, I replied that all CoV business on my
computer would incur a bill for CPU time and Hard Drive space on my
computer.
And you are running a tab, buster! You have been warned! Speak no more to me
of Virus or CoV. I am not interested.
>Please do not exhibit the
> same behavior here you did there, hmmm?
Fuck off, insignificant flamer!
I made a cogent post, pertinently and on topic. You are just being abusive.
Your self rightious hypocrisy is transparent. If you want to play these
games, go back to Virus or join alt.flame, shit-head!
It is my hope that this list still maintains a higher standard than your
ugly abuse. Act like a civilized adult, or go play with the other children.
> > >
> > > I feel that the same occurs with words, thoughts and social
> > > concepts. In the 1890s the term to be gay was OK. It meant having a
> > > happy-go-lucky attitude towards life and living. In the mid
> 1900s this
> > > began to 'evolve' and 'mutate' to a very negative term. Which is the
> > > mistake and which is the mutation? Where is the survivability?
> > > Will gay as
> > > a word and concept become extinct or will there be a
> branching with two
> > > separate but related 'families' arising? In twenty, fifty,
> one-hundred
> > > years how will a semanticist trace the word [if it still exists]?
> > >
> > > Just some thoughts
> > > >
> > > [BJ] Bruce Jones
> > >
> > > ===============================================================
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> > > Journal of Memetics - Evolutionary Models of Information Transmission
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> > > see: http://www.cpm.mmu.ac.uk/jom-emit
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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