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Joe wrote:
<<I can deny that there is such a thing as a meme's point of view at
all; they replicate, but not intentionally - they replicate blindly.>>
Like genes. "The intentional stance" per Dennett.
<< We,
who do have points of view, do send messages to convey
meaning, or we do not send them ("send" implying an intentional
action on our parts - inadvertant or accidental messages/signals,
not consciously chosen, may behaviorally originate/emanate from
us, but it was not our intention to "send" them).>>
I would assert that the vast majority of communication among people involves
lack of conscious intention to send a particular message to a particular
person.
<< What other reason
than to convey a meaning to others could we possibly have for
sending them messages? >>
Emotional outburst, artistic passion, power struggle, playfulness, pranks,
stupidity, mindless repetition of selfish memes...
Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com www.memecentral.com/rbrodie.htm
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