Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA18447 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:42:26 GMT Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:41:07 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: TJ Olney <market@cc.wwu.edu> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Who holds the leash? In-Reply-To: <00020515543103.00380@faichney> Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.4.21.0002081227120.199-100000@c157775-a.frndl1.wa.home.com> X-X-Sender: market@[140.160.80.50] Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
I'd like to re-open the question of who holds the leash, if there is one,
genes or memes, or perhaps something else?
We have instances where within isolated populations, the memes that people
have held have caused the genes demise, -- think ritual group suicides. The
meme tends to die with those genes.
Under what circumstances would the genetic wetware no longer be needed and
the memes continue to replicate, vary, and thus evolve?
I can concieve of logical scenarios where the killing off of significant
numbers of humans is actually to the benefit of the genepool as a whole. In
the "selfish" argument, the individual host for the meme or gene either
passes on the pattern or does not. If a population of meme hosts survives as
a species because of memes that have them cull or otherwise kill off gene
hosts, does that mean that the meme is overriding the gene? Or could it be
that the genetic blueprint includes, as it does with lemmings, saftey valves
for the population?
TJ Olney
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