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From: "Richard Brodie" <richard@brodietech.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: memetics-digest V1 #119
Date sent: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 17:22:47 -0800
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> Joe wrote:
>
> > >What is passed via memes is signification - meaning
>
> I don't think this completely covers everything passed through memes. It is
> related to one of the three general classes of memes I proposed in Virus of
> the Mind: distinction-memes. But strategy-memes, relating to methods and
> behaviors, are another class. And association-memes, relating to
> relationships among objects, are another.
>
There are many considerations which are made considering
objects. "Thatness" refers to their existence. "Where/whenness"
refers to their physical (spatiotemporal) position relative to the
perceiver and to other objects. "Whatness" refers to their
particularity and identity, and what distinguishes them from other
objects aside from spatiotemporal concerns. Memes are passed
through the perceptual apprehension of shown action (which may
then be imitated) and through the reception (I didn't say hearing
because of visual languages such as ASL) of told or the reading
(even with the fingers - braille) of written information, which then
may be retold and/or rewritten. I do not believe that any perception
can be considered a meme; our apprehension of our natural
environs, for instance, does not in my opinion qualify. For
information to qualify as memetic in my conception, it must be
transmitted from one person to another (although such
transmission can be unintentional in a variety of ways, such as
accidence or inadvertance); both the source and the goal must be
self-aware.
>
> Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com
> http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie
>
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