From: "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: The information theoretic view Was: JOM
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 16:39:51 -0400
In-Reply-To: <14D+WEAIXW03EwBj@faichney.demon.co.uk>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Robin Faichney
> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 2:33 PM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: The information theoretic view Was: JOM
>
>
> In message <19990904153424.AAA5358@camail2.harvard.edu>, Wade T.Smith
> <wade_smith@harvard.edu> writes
> >And it might just be (now whose camp am I bedding down in?) that we are
> >much better off, for the time being, if not forever, with leaving it all
> >with a decision about memetics, and not about memes. No, not
> about memes,
> >not about memes, at all. Not about memes at all.
> >
> >And we can start by saying that:
> >
> >"Memetics is the study of how...
> >
> >>information is transmitted from
> >>one brain to another via behaviour and/or artefacts."
> >
> >- Yeah, we can clean up the spelling in the usanian edition....
> >
> >I used to say, in a tongue-in-cheek mode, sprinkling zen and
> essence- 'To
> >a life without memes!'
> >
> >And now I mean it.
>
> I can see where you're coming from, but I don't think we can ditch
> memes. The most fundamental question is: what is it that survives? The
> answer is "genes and memes".
But not all genes survive. Yet we do know what's a gene (or do we?).
Defining a meme, then, by it's survival is unhelpful. I hope that is not
what is suggested.
> --
> Robin Faichney
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