From: "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: The information theoretic view Was: JOM
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:04:01 -0400
In-Reply-To: <I9NAYOAHB3z3EwuX@faichney.demon.co.uk>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Robin Faichney
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 2:53 AM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: The information theoretic view Was: JOM
>
>
> In message <001801bef5d5$83add7c0$fdb606d1@sbosmr.ma.cable.rcn.com>,
> Aaron Agassi <agassi@erols.com> writes
> >> We do disagree, in that I say that there are no cultural replicators
> >> that exist entirely in the mind (or entirely outside of it): there are
> >> no "mind-based replicators". I don't agree that "the mind" is
> useful in
> >> any definition, being undefined itself, and I say that every cultural
> >> replicator (i.e. every meme) exists both inside and outside the brain.
> >> To the extent that our definitions overlap -- that is, for
> items that we
> >> would agree are memes, or as close to being memes as makes no
> difference
> >> for most purposes -- I think these are extremely interesting. But
> >> they're not all I'm interested in.
> >This is Phenomenology. The Phenomena includes both reflection and the
> >ongoing simulation of reality from input. The Phenomena depends both upon
> >reality and upon the perceiver. This is nothing new.
>
> This is utter BS. There is no reflection, simulation or perceiver in my
> scenario. With this kind of input, you are wasting our time, Aaron.
Just what sort of untenable Reductionism are you peddling?
> --
> Robin Faichney
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