From: "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: i-memes and m-memes
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:04:21 -0400
In-Reply-To: <78wcIVAy0mz3EwZw@faichney.demon.co.uk>
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> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Robin Faichney
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 8:28 AM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: i-memes and m-memes
>
>
> In message <000301bef51a$7764c480$fdb606d1@sbosmr.ma.cable.rcn.com>,
> Aaron Agassi <agassi@erols.com> writes
> >> b) because there is a (fairly) precise definition of the Dawkins
> >> B meme as a
> >> replicating unit of brain information (perhaps) associated with some
> >> externally observable behaviour or other cultural artefact. That
> >> isn't just
> >> a thought.
> >It's still a thought! All thoughts are brain information.
>
> In some sense, perhaps. But all brain information is not thoughts.
Well, there is also memory. And there are autonomic responses. But where
thought is not involved, can this be memetic? Are there behaviors observed
and then repeated, such that we do not call this thought of one kind or
another? No, experience qualifies as thought, does it not? Are learned
behaviors literally unthinking? What memes, then, in the brain, are not
thought?
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