From: "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: i-memes and m-memes
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:52:33 -0400
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> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Bill Spight
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 6:03 AM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: i-memes and m-memes
>
>
> Aaron:
> But no non-replicators. No more than there are losers in Vegas!
> There are only patrons who have not yet found their winning table!
>
> Derek:
>
> well, that last sentence shows the untenability of your thesis.
> Of course there are losers at Vegas!!! Are you advertising Vegas???
>
> Bill:
>
> Aaron's analogy between non-replicating memes and losers at Vegas
> (although I guess that he would say that losers at Vegas *are*
> memes)
No, they are memetic. They are behavers and walking artifacts. Shit! Look at
what they wear and listen to them talk! They are truly phenomena!
>reminds me that memes not only replicate, they are culled
> by selection. Memes that are not selected do not replicate. They
> are like losers at Vegas. It's a pretty good analogy.
>
> However, to stretch the analogy a bit, there are people who do
> not play, who do not enter the fray, who (in terms of winning at
> Vegas) never even have a chance to win. They are not memes.
>
> I think we have to distinguish between failure to replicate and
> not having the opportunity to start with.
No, we decidedly do not. Opportunity is always a factor, as much as
adaptation. Both a dandelion seed and a brick have aerodynamic profiles.
But, just as Hollywood assures us, even a heifer has a chance at flight
during the tornado season. And the best balsa wood glider may never taste
the sky, but instead gather dust on the toy store display shelf forever.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Bill "Young girls have picked them, every one" Spight
>
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