From: "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Re i-memes and m-memes
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:35:58 -0400
In-Reply-To: <wXNuS6AA0ty3Ewjs@faichney.demon.co.uk>
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> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Robin Faichney
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 3:35 PM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Re i-memes and m-memes
>
>
> In message <NDBBKCNLILOJKHKHNLHOEEFCCAAA.paulmarsden@email.msn.com>,
> Paul Marsden <paulmarsden@email.msn.com> writes
> >
> >A point of clarification on Cloak's paper on i-culture and m-culture,
> >(i-memes and m-memes) which started this thread. I agree is a very useful
> >distinction, but the mistake should not be made to assume that
> >i-culture/i-memes is ideational when it is an instructional heuristic.
> >Specifically, according to Cloak, i-culture is a behaviour
> (m-culture) plus
> >an environmental cue, which may be *understood* as an
> instruction. i.e. the
> >interneural instruction is developed as a heuristic device for
> >behaviour+cue. This is very different to the thinking that has been
> >developed in this thread on i-memes and m-memes, and should not
> be confused
> >with it. Specifically, the former has the advantage of being a
> >non-ideational theory of culture, thereby eschewing the problems of
> >introspection.
Then, is Memetics Reductionist Behaviorist?
>It is, in other words, a heterophenomenological
> approach -
> >and in my opinion all the better for it.
>
> I can't speak for anyone else, but all of my contributions to this
> thread have been entirely non-ideational. I talk about "brains", not
> "minds", for exactly that reason.
> --
> Robin Faichney
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