From: "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: i-memes and m-memes
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:34:28 -0400
In-Reply-To: <2XhvS1Awxty3EwCy@faichney.demon.co.uk>
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> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Robin Faichney
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 3:33 PM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: i-memes and m-memes
>
>
> In message <37CABDB5.381601C9@pacbell.net>, Bill Spight
> <bspight@pacbell.net> writes
> >James:
> >
> >Besides, without the appropriate decoding system, it becomes
> meaningless to
> >talk of an artefact containing information.
> >
> >Bill:
> >
> >Well, it certainly is meaningless to talk about their containing
> meaning. But we
> >knew that Egyptian hieroglyphs and Mayan stellae contained
> information before we
> >could decode them.
>
> It's recently become evident to me that some people are mislead by such
> statements. I think what's meant here is: we knew these things were
> deliberately marked in a way that was intended to convey information,
> via encoding. They don't literally "contain" any more information than
> any other similarly complex physical object.
They have the attribute of information in the physicist's sense, that is, as
opposed to Entropy. Manufactured form, including encoding, may be viewed as
a special case of information in the physicist's sense.
> --
> Robin Faichney
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