From: BMSDGATH <BMSDGATH@livjm.ac.uk>
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: Re: The Significance of Memetics is ...
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:52:18 -0500 (EST)
On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:44:39 -0500 (EST) levy@Oswego.EDU wrote:
> Can 
anyone here state an important insight or even an accurate prediction
> that has come from using the memetics paradigm?
If you count EM Rogers as a memeticist, his 'Communication of 
Innovations: a Cross-cultural Approach' (Free Press, NY 1972) has an 
appendix prepared by Jaganmohan Rao which has 38 pages of confirmed 
predictions arranged in 10 categories, eg prediction 4-6 is "The degree 
of communication integration in a social system is positively related 
to the rate of adoption of innovations".  6 empirical studies are cited 
all of which support the prediction.  And so on it goes.
 
If you insist that Rogers is not really a memeticist, and admittedly a) 
he doesn't call himself one and b) there is no mention of Darwin 
anywhere in his work (I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm 
wrong), then try the following:
1) Cultural preferences for progeny of one sex over the other, will 
cause changes in allele frequencies at sex-ratio distorter loci, and 
these genetic changes will in turn influence the selective pressure on 
cultural behaviour. (Kumm et al 1994)
2) The patterns of milk utilisation and yam cultivation are intimately 
associated with allele frequencies at loci involved in lactose 
utilisation and malaria resistance, with cultural selection and genetic 
selection operating in tandem on both genotype and cultural behaviour. 
(Aoki 1986).
3) Sexual preferences are cultural rather then genetic but depend on 
the underlying (genetic) distribution of body types.  (Laland 1994)
4) Possibly also the analysis of Tibetan marriage practices by Durham 
(1991, Coevolution, Stanford UP)
You might with reason protest that these are exercises in fitting 
bodies of data to models rather than predictive experiments.  Number 1 
does contain a straight prediction, but it may be a while before we can 
see the result.
You might protest again that none of the above call themselves 
memeticists either, but Kevin Laland does use the word in his 
publications from time to time (when he co-authors with Marc Feldman 
there is no mention of memes, since Feldman is a Cavallian 'cultural 
traits' man).
Laland of course is now Royal Society Senior Fellow at Cambridge, so 
does he count as the first offical academic memeticist?  I can see this 
is going to get into a 'what/who is a memeticist discussion'.
 
Memetics shares the problem of evolutionary biology in that the 
timescale involved in observation is often longer than the patience of 
most observers.  The classic confirmatory 'experiment' of 
microevolution (and note this is just _micro_ evolution), the case of 
the peppered moth Biston betularia and its change in colouring, took 
something like 150 years.  I'd strongly recommend EB Ford's Ecological 
Genetics (1940, in most university libraries) for a taste of the 
magnitude of the experimental system in evolution.
Aoki K (1986)  A stochastic model of gene-culture coevolution suggested 
by the culture historical hypothesis for the evolution of adult lactose 
absorption in humans.  PNAS 83, 2929-2933.
Kumm J et al (1994)  Gene-culture co-evolution and sex ratios:  the 
effects of infanticide, sex-selective abortion, sex selection, and 
sex-biased parental investment on the evolution of sex ratios.  
Theoretical Population Biology 46, 249-278.
Laland KN (1994)  Sexual selection with a culturally transmitted mating 
preference.  Theoretical Population Biology 45, 1-15.
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