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From: Scott Chase
> >Grant,
> >
> > > >This is getting very complicated. Far simpler if memories aren't
> > > >stored anywhere but emerge from the act of recollection. Instead
> > > >of attributing an artificial memory system to the brain, we should be
> > > >searching for the basis of natural memory, that is, the recall of
what
> > > >was once present.
> > >
> > > Recall it from where?
> >
> >You mean, from when.
> >
> >Memory concerns time, not space. Otherwise it's not really memory
> >but merely the storage and retrieval of information. In our memetically
> >ingrained, mechanistic worldview, true memory is a thing of the past.
> >Artificial memory is just that-- artifice.
> >
> >
> "Our" worldview? *You're* the one working with straw, to huff and puff,
> leaving us with the morphic will o' the wisp where the straw once stood.
Are you accusing me of attacking a straw man? I'm only responding to what
people on this list are saying. The vast majority of Western intellectuals
believe that memories are stored in the brain. While I don't believe this,
I recognize that I'm part of a community that does. Hence "our worldview."
Ted
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