Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id QAA18944 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:40:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.110.248.206] From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: ply to Grant Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:34:24 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <LAW2-F3S9G8J0Go6xBF0000c683@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2002 16:34:25.0087 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C5184F0:01C1B4AC] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: RE: ply to Grant
>Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:54:07 -0500
>
>Hi Grant and Vincent.
>
>Vincent wrote:
>
>>> There's a difference between viewing social change critically,
>>>which
>>>is an essential requirement to properly evaluate change, and viewing it
>>>negatively (or positively for that matter). Besides, as a lecturer in
>>>media
>>>studies, for me to argue against social change involving technology would
>>>be
>>>a bit rich. Indeed, as my anti-media effects stance should indicate, I'm
>>>particularly pro-technologies that, IMHO, are socially progressive and
>>>not
>>>harmful as many people have thought (and still think) about all media
>>>forms.
>>>I, of couse, think the media collectively are a pretty good set of
>>>techologies.
>>>
>>> In many ways, I'd call myself a bit of a futurist looking
>>>forward to
>>>those changes, and this for me is the key, that are in the public
>>>interest.
>>>The facts though suggest that corporate control of key features of
>>>contemporary life, such as in transportation, involves the deliberate and
>>>continual denial of technologies (cleaner running cars for example)
>>>because
>>>such technologies would kill those corporations.
>>>
>>> In media too, the myth of the 'free marketplace of ideas' is
>>>widely
>>>demonstrable. Only today I've been reading bits of Richard McCord's 'The
>>>Chain Gang' about Gannett, the US's largest newspaper chain (over 90
>>>dailies
>>>across the US, and which also owns Newsquest in the UK, which controls
>>>300
>>>local papers), and how the company aggressively attempted, sometimes
>>>successfully, to put rival papers out of business leaving communities
>>>with a
>>>'marketplace' of one paper.
>>>
>>> Of course capitalism is an ideology, and ideology is one for the
>>>memes in minds fraternity.
>
>
>I think a little memetic interpretation here might help Grant out. You see
>the problem is that Grant's world view suffers from infection by parasitic
>memes that conveniently allow him to justify the actions of an unjust
>government. They have been accepted by him not so much because of their
>inherent truth but because they allow him to avoid guilt for the way in
>which the U.S. government exploits the international community. Grant has
>been infected and the new emerging science of memetics will allow him to
>understand the irrational reasons he has adopted these positions.
>
>Ray Recchia
>
Thank you Dr. Freud. I needed a good laugh today. Who was it who said,
"Judge not that ye be not judged" or words to that effect? I'm sure you're
higher moral plane will inspire me to rise up from my state of ignorance and
lack of righteous guilt if and when the right memes infect me. Meanwhile
I'll just have to survive with my bad old memes.
Cheers,
Grant
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