Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id QAA06100 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:17:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.240.222.132] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: noogenetics vs. memetics Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:11:48 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F215JuLZOcCfHB646yo0001b146@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2002 16:11:48.0758 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4A4E360:01C1B24D] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
I tried sending a longer posting earlier but it appears to have vanished in 
the ether. I'll start off with a very basic quote from Julian Huxley's 
"Man's Place and Role in Nature" and augment it later, as time allows. I 
could grow old and gray waiting for Wilkins to re-surface ;-)
In his essay "Man's Place and Role in Nature" Julian Huxley says:
(bq) "I would accordingly suggest the term *noetic system* or *noosystem* to 
denote the complex of the shareable and transmissible activities and 
products of human mind, the pattern thought and science, law and morality, 
art and ritual, which forms the basis of human society. These noetic 
patterns will differ from culture to culture, and often within a single 
culture. The study of how they are transmitted and how they change and 
evolve in time should be the central quest of the sciences of man: we might 
call it *noogenetics*" (eq)
Some might ask about replication and replicators. Well Huxley alludes to 
this earlier in his essay saying:
(bq) "Biological evolution depends on natural selection, which was made 
possible when matter became capable of self-reproduction and self-variation. 
Psycho-social or cultural evolution depends on cumulative tradition, which 
was made possible when mind and its products became capable of 
self-reproduction and self-variation." (eq)
Is this a cultural replicator theory Huxley's proposing? Did Huxley scoop 
Dawkins by years. There's more to Huxley's discussions than these quote 
demonstrate. In a subsequent essay "Evolution, Cultural and Biological" 
Huxley utilizes the pregnant term "mentifact". More on this later...
See:
Julian Huxley. 1957. Knowledge, Morality, & Destiny (original title: New 
Bottles for New Wine). Mentor Book, New American Library. New York
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