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----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
To: <kennethvanoost@myrealbox.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: Apoptosis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Grant Callaghan <grantc4@hotmail.com>
>
> > I like this viewpoint, Steve, and agree completely. The evidence for it
> > lies in how what we believe influences what we see and what we call
things
> > influences how we remember them and react to the emotionally. In other
> > words, our memes do influence our perceptions and as we adopt new ones,
> our
> > perceptions change.
>
> Hi Grant,
>
> Not sure if that is totally correct, though !
> It is my understanding, following Kant on this, that our knowledge about
> certain things is coupled with a certain adaptation of the recieved info.
> That is, the information stored in the memes, which than influence your
> perceptions, is NOT what is really seen, heard, smelled or being touched.
> The ' dinge- an- sich ', as Kant called those, can 't be known.
> You can look at a car, and see its shape, colour and test its perfomance,
> but you can only imagine how a bee would "experience " seeing a car.
> That can 't be known to us, the full picture of what is outside can 't be
> seen.
>
> Hypothetical, what you think is your perception, can just be a by memes
> influenced map of things, not real thus !!
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
>
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