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Wade:
> >From my recently adopted stance, this email is a meme, and 'distinction'
> is an idea. Ideas can be inferred from memes, but memes cannot be
> inferred from ideas.
I strongly suspect that you contradict yourself here now Wade. If you have
an
idea about executing somekind of behavior like, I don't know, imagining how
to catch a deer. The inferred behavior will be
memetic, by any definition of the meme. Therefore memes *can* be inferred
from
ideas. In the ubiquitous definition of the meme ideas are just a category of
memes so the relation
memes <=> ideas
holds.
Philip.
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