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Hi Joe Dees -
Sometimes, truthfully, you bring tears to my eyes.
- Wade
>Here you are, quite simply, wrong. Whatever reality is, it must include
>our primordial and apodictic experience. Our augmented perceptions have
>informed us concerning the structure of these material objects, and the
>fact that they are composed of molecules, which are themselves composed of
>atoms, that are composed on one level of protons, neutrons and electrons,
>and on a deeper level of quarks, leptons and gluons, with much empty space
>between, but that is not to deny the reality we existentially and
>phenomenologically experience, but to further define it. Our experiences
>are subjective, but our common experiences are intersubjective, and
>massive intersubjective agreement, such as occurs in the sciences,
>apodictically approaches objectivity, and its objects are not only real,
>but experimentally possess certain real attributes. What we may discover
>in the future concerning the constitution of physical objects will not
>overthrow atomic and nuclear views, but extend, deepen and elaborate upon
>them. Since much of our technology is designed and built upon the
>exploitation of these structural underpinnings and their various
>properties, if they were fallacious, we could not be doing with them what
>we are doing here/now, i.e. communication with each other by virtue of them.
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