Re: Words and memes

From: Joe Dees (joedees@addall.com)
Date: Wed Feb 06 2002 - 07:39:48 GMT

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    >Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 20:47:53 +1100
    > memetics@mmu.ac.uk Jeremy Bradley <jeremyb@nor.com.au> Re: Words and memesReply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    >
    >Ted wrote
    >Snip.......
    >>If "meme" is taken to be equivalent to "idea," then it becomes culturally
    >>universalized and ceases to have meaning. On the other hand, if "meme" is
    >>equated with "learned behavior," then it becomes biologically universalized
    >>and also ceases to have meaning. Any term that can be collapsed into
    >>another term is just an abstraction. It has no existence outside of the
    >>word we've made up for it.
    >>
    >>Ted
    >>
    >>
    >Hi Ted
    >Good points. What if 'meme' is simply a word signifying a strand of
    >cultural information which resides in cultural artefacts (even a hammer)
    >which enables the replication of the culture?
    >Jeremy
    >
    I see memes as encodings of meaningful information that are replicated for fitness reasons. They may be encoded in neural nets, behavior or artifacts, and many are encoded in all three.
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