Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id PAA16805 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 5 Feb 2002 15:34:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.110.248.206] From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Selfish memes ? Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 07:28:23 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <LAW2-F137a4RCIlWrdF0001578a@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Feb 2002 15:28:24.0260 (UTC) FILETIME=[C02D4840:01C1AE59] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> >>On Monday, February 4, 2002, at 10:33 , Kenneth Van Oost wrote:
> >>
> >>>Why can 't altruistic behavior in the extreme not be a case of
> >>>selfishness !?
> >>
> >>Society itself is a dance around this- the cultural environment is, like
> >>that village we all done heard tell about a few years ago, what raises
> >>the child, after all. Sacrifices to that environment are beneficial
> >>(they can be...) to that environment, and thus, ones genes are given a
> >>further chance to keep going.
> >>
> >>Strong sociocultural units are survival mechanisms, and always have
>been.
> >>
> >>Like ants, however, such 'selfishness' as this sort of altruism is,
> >>needs obeisance and dependence.
> >>
> >>- Wade
> >>
> >Are you implying that the soldiers who seemed so eager to go to
>Afghanistan
> >to fight the Al Quaeda and the Taliban and perhaps lose their lives in
>the
> >process did so out of obeisance and dependence?
> >
>Yes, to what their mullahs told them was the will of Allah. The term
>'Islam' may be translated as 'Submission'.
> >
Are you saying the mullahs told American soldiers to go to Afghanistan and
fight the Al Quaeda and the Taliban? That's a strange view of the
situation. You must have misread my post. ;-)>
Grant
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