Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id XAA08063 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:06:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.240.222.132] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: ality Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 18:01:08 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F261RaqbC8wSA1XvpFV000231d0@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2002 23:01:08.0399 (UTC) FILETIME=[559CF3F0:01C1AB74] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: ality
>Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:54:58 -0800
>
>>>
>>How do you know that it might, instead of being stored in the "brain"
>>(that
>>amorpous clump of mush that couldn't possibly "store" memories), not be
>>beamed to you morphically? Perhaps your amorpous clump of mush acts as an
>>antenna and is tuned to the right frequency, the species frequency?
>>
>>Has the hook set well? Can I start reeling it in? Either I'm trolling Ted
>>the Sheldrakian or Grant who might be too new to know Ted's source of
>>inspiration.
>>
>Sheldrake is beyond my ken, but I can't see myself hooked to the matrix
>quite yet. And who might have been beaming these messges to mankind lo
>these many years? Is there a broadcasting station the NSA hasn't dug out
>yet?
>
>Your arguement is like saying bits of silicon can't store pictures. Go
>ahead, tear a memory chip apart and examine it with a microscope. You
>won't
>find a picture in it. Nor will you find one on the spinning disk in your
>computer. How can a magnetized piece of metal hold pictures? But push the
>right key on your keyboard, and there they are, staring back at you from
>your monitor. Of course, these pictures might have been beamed to me over
>a
>wire or radio frequency. My computer is connected to a net. But when the
>connection is broken, the pictures remain behind and can be regenerated
>after my computer has been turned off and back on. My experience tells me
>the pictures were stored inside my computer as well as coming from outside.
>
>The memories I see in my brain are too much my own creation to have been
>planted by anyone else. I have spent too much time working with them.
>I've
>found evidence outside of me to confirm what I remember. That's what I do
>-- I compare incoming signals from my eyes and ears with memories. From
>this process are fashioned new memories. But either way, what difference
>would it make?
>
>Whether the mushy clump acts as transmitter/receiver or storage bin, the
>process works and allows me to run the maze of life well enough not to
>starve or get run over. The map I see behind my eyes allows me to get from
>point A to point B and feel like I understand how I got there.
>
>
I was being facetious (too bad postings don't convey tone of voice). I'm
squarely within the memory stored in brains camp (with some allowances for
written cues such as diaries and such). I was getting Ted's morphically
resonating pet goat.
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