Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id IAA06184 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:27:32 GMT Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 00:22:50 -0800 Message-Id: <200201290822.g0T8Moe16876@mail12.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [65.80.161.53] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Rogue Males by Lionel Tiger Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> memetics@mmu.ac.uk Re: Rogue Males by Lionel TigerDate: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:45:02 -0500
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>>From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com>
>>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>>Subject: Re: Rogue Males by Lionel Tiger
>>Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 01:56:12 -0800
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>> >Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:04:21 +0800
>> > memetics@mmu.ac.uk Stephen Springette <tramont@iinet.net.au> Re: Rogue
>>Males by Lionel TigerReply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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>> >At 10:29 24-01-02 -0500, Scott Chase wrote:
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>> >>Is there some subtle parallel here between so-called "groupies" lining
>>up
>> >>for a chance at N-Sync or The Rolling Stones and the harems of the
>> >>infamous over there in Afghanistan?
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>>No, because the parents of the groupies were not in the concert audience to
>>arrange their daughters' marriages with the band members, whereas the
>>infamous Muslims marry, like the rest of them, according to parental
>>arrangement. In most non-Muslim countries, women are not considered
>>chattel anymore.
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>Can Islam be painted with such a wide brush? Maybe a distinction could be
>made between what is Muslim and what is Arab. Are women generally oppressed
>within Palestinian, Syrian, Lebanese, Egyptian or Turkish cultures?
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>I have heard of the repugnant honor crimes, but how widespread is this?
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The most gender egalitarian country in your list is Turkey, but it is nowhere near say, western europe or the US. In Palestine, Syria and Lebanon, there are still honor killings of women by their male relatives.
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