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  Grant said:
>Time is a function of how we perceive the universe, not the universe itself.
Julian Barbour makes the same contention in his book "The End of 
Time" he also discusses some of the same points that Keith mentions 
about determinism.  He says that time doesn't really exist, and that 
just as we can infer a take off and a landing from a photo of 
motorcyclist jumping over cars, so our brains infer linear time from 
a non-linear timeframe.  He says (a la Keith) that in the end, 
understanding this about time doesn't really change anything, just as 
understanding that the earth is round didn't mean that people in the 
southern hemisphere suddenly started "falling" off of it.
frankie
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