Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id RAA04543 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:37:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.240.222.132] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Rogue Males by Lionel Tiger Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:33:38 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F40sVxONvzyJxArGvnC00024fdc@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2002 17:33:38.0766 (UTC) FILETIME=[EBDDE6E0:01C1A821] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: Rogue Males by Lionel Tiger
>Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 02:30:05 -0800
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> >Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 14:12:22 +0800
> > memetics@mmu.ac.uk Stephen Springette <tramont@iinet.net.au> Re: Rogue
>Males by Lionel TigerReply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> >
> >At 09:59 25-01-02 -0500, Scott Chase wrote:
> >>So you were connecting "groupies" and harem members. It's worse than I
> >>anticipated. Women fantasizing about being raped? Being desired and
> >>violated two sides of the same coin? That's an explication that's a
>little
> >>over the top doncha think?
> >
> >My, how little Western men and women understand each other. But then
>again,
> >that is to be expected. After all, feminism is just good, old fashioned
> >chivalry. But instead of feminism as chivalry bestowed by men, it is
> >chivalry demanded by feminists. And Scott appears to buy the lot, hook
>line
> >and sinker.
> >
>I wonder if your misogyny could actually be covetousness or jealousy? Do
>you wanna be a woman, Stephen, or do you just wish they'd stop stealing
>your men? Or can you just not get a woman to pay attention to you, and
>resent it?
>
>
>
>
It might be a good time for a subthread about heroines such as Barbara
McClintock, Hilde Mangold, Lynn Margulis, Rosalind Franklin...
Or Maggie "the Iron Lady" Thatcher*, Indira Gandhi, Benazir Bhutto@...
Hopefully the glass ceiling isn't steel reinforced.
*- don't go there Vincent...at least even those conservatives slanted right
of center can identify with her in some way regardless of their general
views on women's rights
@- former female prime minister of a largely Muslim nation...whatever
significance that may have
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