Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id BAA27648 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:20:13 GMT Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:15:46 -0800 Message-Id: <200201260115.g0Q1Fk424319@mail15.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [65.80.160.204] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: The Barren Desolate Wasteland of Superdeterminism Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> <salice@gmx.net> memetics@mmu.ac.ukDate: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:45:12 +0100
> Re: The Barren Desolate Wasteland of SuperdeterminismReply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>On 25 Jan 2002, at 0:24, Philip Jonkers wrote:
>
>> Although truly inventive they never managed to do just that, in fact every
>> test gave results in harmony with QM predictions.
>> QM has stood the tooth of time for too long to discard it by arguments
>> of a hand-waving, religious or down-right emotional flavor.
>
>Well, what survived throughout the history of QM is that we don't
>understand how certain probabilites and statistics come about. But
>this doesn't mean that they are a result of indeterministic or
>random processes.
>
>> Nature seems to
>> be intrinsically indeterministic at small enough scales.
>
>Nature seems to be hard to understand and hard to observe at
>small enough scales. QM gives the answer, like all religions, to the
>momentary unexplainable.
>
Funny, it seems to me that this is exactly what superdeterminism proposes to do, and in the absence of confirming evidence.
>
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