Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id QAA23148 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:27:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.110.248.206] From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Grant's theory of Everything Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:23:17 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <LAW2-F71I2Ppt8MduuJ0000ab79@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2002 16:23:18.0465 (UTC) FILETIME=[6EB81310:01C1A4F3] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: Grant's theory of Everything
>Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:27:43 -0900
>
>Steve:
>I find i agree with a lot that you have said, and that we do have many
>choices in the memes we accept. Where i disagree is that we have been
>exposed to various memes throughout our lives that we do not neccesarily
>question without a great deal of thought, and that many people either do
>not
>do , will not do it or cannot do it. Hence they accept memes that are close
>to the one they posses without hte scrutiny that they should deserve, and
>act accordingly. eg. If i said to you that Hitler was not that bad a bloke,
>you would likely not agree! (and evryone else hopefully!) :-). But for
>some reason in the 1930's a lot did. And if they didn't they at least kept
>stum. This is what i mean by the idea that memetic acceptance/ rejection is
>one of a spectrum rather than a simple filter that we chose to interpret
>the
>world in terms of our 'wants'.
>
>Both yourself and Philip are at least attempting to to narrow the field a
>bit and good luck to you both for trying.
>
>About the the freedom we have in chosen memes we like: you should not
>forget that memes shape who we are. Ideas and ideologies we adopt are in
>resonance with memes we already adopted. Memes code the brain, and in a
>way the metaphore memes selecting memes is not so bad.
>I think the actual freedom one has in chosing between one meme or
>another is not that big. Emotions play a crucial role in the selection
>process but
>emotions in turn are steered by thoughts, ideas, notions, opinions each of
>which is memetic also.
>
>Thanks for your encouragement Steve....
>BTW how did you learn speed-reading?
>
>Philip.
>
>
New memes grow out of old memes and the pool of memes we have available to
us as individuals, based on our past experience, limit the size of that
pool. Throw in the emotional attachment we have to many of our memes, also
gained from our experience, and it narrows the choice even further. So
although the pool of available memesis large, the life you've lived
constrains the choices you are likely to make. In the final analysis, most
of your choices are predetermined based on memes you already have experience
with and have chosen previously with good results. It's when you run into a
situation outside of your experience with that the freedom of choice becomes
important. Then, the more options you have available the greater your
chances will be of finding a useful solution.
Thus spake Grant ;-)>
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