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Frankie:
> >I have been thinking about Aaron's idea that we should dispose of the
word
> >meme, and call them replicators.
Keith:
> I have often mentioned in my writing that you could replace "meme" with
> "replicating information pattern." Replicator is the inclusive class that
> incorporates genes, memes and computer viruses. Meme though is a short
> handy word and does not have much baggage (outside of meme discussion
> groups that is).
But why do you make a distinction between meme and computer virus?
A computer virus is nothing but a computer program, albeit somewhat pushy
and malevolent. Therefore, in principle you should extend the distinction to
separate
memes from computer programs, which is not correct I think as computer
programs also feature all the properties of memes. Moreover, computer
programs
have a high longevity, vary easily and can be terribly fecund and
easily transmittable (by internet, discs, etc...). A typical example of a
potentially very
successful meme I would say.
Philip.
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