Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id EAA18169 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 23 Jan 2002 04:28:56 GMT Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:24:36 -0800 Message-Id: <200201230424.g0N4Oa522701@mail15.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [65.80.160.121] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Grant's theory of Everything Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> memetics@mmu.ac.uk Re: Grant's theory of EverythingDate: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:46:14 -0800
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>>
>>I find i agree with a lot that you have said, and that we do have many
>>choices in the memes we accept. Where i disagree is that we have been
>>exposed to various memes throughout our lives that we do not neccesarily
>>question without a great deal of thought, and that many people either do
>>not
>>do , will not do it or cannot do it. Hence they accept memes that are close
>>to the one they posses without hte scrutiny that they should deserve, and
>>act accordingly. eg. If i said to you that Hitler was not that bad a bloke,
>>you would likely not agree! (and evryone else hopefully!) :-). But for
>>some reason in the 1930's a lot did. And if they didn't they at least kept
>>stum. This is what i mean by the idea that memetic acceptance/ rejection is
>>one of a spectrum rather than a simple filter that we chose to interpret
>>the
>>world in terms of our 'wants'.
>>
>>Both yourself and Philip are at least attempting to to narrow the field a
>>bit and good luck to you both for trying.
>>
>>As i say i see a spectrum.
>>
>>Look forward to your comments,
>>
>>Steve.
>>
>I agree that although we have a lot of tools available to choose from, we
>most often grab the one we are most familiar with, just as the carpenter
>grabs his favorite hammer rather than the newest and most advanced on the
>market. Nail guns are superior in many ways to hammers but lots of
>carpenters still don't use them. Courting procedures are often scripted by
>the culture in which we live and change comes slowly.
>
>I was amused today by an article on Shanghai that showed pictures of new
>brides and grooms. They would have looked at home in New York. White gowns
>and tuxedos were on all the principals, and there wasn't a sign of
>traditional Chinese dress anywhere, although the signs and messages posted
>around the ceremony still used the traditional sayings of double harmony,
>etc.
>
>Chinese women have also been freed from the tyrany of having their mates
>chosen for them by their parents or a rich uncle. Most of them now marry as
>a result of personal attraction to someone. But go-betweens still do a good
>business helping people find a good mate. They just do it for the bride now
>rather than her parents. So new choices are producing new memes based on
>old ones. Some of the new choices have been imported from America, along
>with Macdonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken. The result seems a bit like sex
>between different species that produced something like a mule. It's neither
>horse nor donkey.
>
With the difference that mules are sterile, and these hybrid memes may be (and in some cases are) proliferent.
>
>Grant
>
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