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<<I have been thinking about Aaron's idea that we should dispose of the
word meme, and call them replicators. >>
Well, we already DO call replicators "replicators." The meme, as settled
upon by Dawkins and Dennett anyway, is a replicator based in the mind. I
think everyone agrees the (mental) meme is not the only cultural replicator.
It's just such a neat word I think people want to use it to refer to
whatever replicator they're fascinated by. Much of the historical traffic on
this list has been of that nature. Prof. Tim proposed "L-meme" (should
really be "D-meme" for the originator of the definition) for a mental
replicator and "G-meme" for an artifactual one. In my book I called the
former "meme" out of respect to Dawkins and Dennett and spent much paper on
discussion of complex replicators---similar to Bloom's
"superorganisms"---that make use of minds and memes for their growth and
persistence. I called those "viruses of the mind" and did and do find them a
more fascinating study than individual memes, which as many have pointed out
are invisible, intangible, and difficult to study. They are conceptually
cool, however.
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