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> "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> memetics@mmu.ac.uk RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory PerceptionDate: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 08:22:17 -0800
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>
>> >Keith Henson
>> >
>>The Church of Virus is indeed attempting to memetically engineer a religion
>>that paradoxically values logic, rationality, the scientific method and
>>provisional evidence-grounded knowledge over blind faith and dogmatic
>>belief. Their 'patron saint' is Charles Darwin.
>> >
>>
>Keith,
>
>I thought for a moment you were going to say the patron sait's name was L.
>Ron Hubbard. ;-)>
>
>How about as a guiding theme: The means you use shape the ends you get.
>
>If, for example, you believe in "a life for a life, an eye for an eye, and a
>tooth for a tooth," what you get is a country full of graves and the living
>are mostly eyeless and toothless. If you believe that the only logical
>transaction between two parties is one that produces a win-win result for
>both, you will have a society based on nonzero game playing.
>
>Of the four possible outcomes of a transaction: I win, you win; I win, you
>lose; I lose, you win, and I lose, you lose, only the first is logically
>worth pursuing. Most of the bad things people do to each other are based on
>the other three.
>
The problem with the Islamicist meme is that the only definition its holders will accept of their winning is if the infidels lose.
>
>
>Grant
>
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