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At 08:22 AM 20/01/02 -0800, you wrote:
>> >Keith Henson
>> >
>>The Church of Virus is indeed attempting to memetically engineer a
>>religion that paradoxically values logic, rationality, the scientific
>>method and provisional evidence-grounded knowledge over blind faith and
>>dogmatic belief. Their 'patron saint' is Charles Darwin.
>> >
>Keith,
You misread the attributions levels, "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> wrote
that.
>I thought for a moment you were going to say the patron sait's name was L.
>Ron Hubbard. ;-)>
>
>How about as a guiding theme: The means you use shape the ends you get.
>
>If, for example, you believe in "a life for a life, an eye for an eye, and
>a tooth for a tooth," what you get is a country full of graves and the
>living are mostly eyeless and toothless. If you believe that the only
>logical transaction between two parties is one that produces a win-win
>result for both, you will have a society based on nonzero game playing.
>
>Of the four possible outcomes of a transaction: I win, you win; I win, you
>lose; I lose, you win, and I lose, you lose, only the first is logically
>worth pursuing. Most of the bad things people do to each other are based
>on the other three.
I don't yet know enough about humans, particularly the psychology that
arises from our evolutionary past, to design a religion. Some hints about
what might be involved can be found in *Origin of Virtue" by Matt
Riddley. I suspect rationality might play a minor role though.
Keith Henson
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