Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id EAA08051 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sun, 20 Jan 2002 04:09:04 GMT Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 20:04:41 -0800 Message-Id: <200201200404.g0K44fM10725@mail9.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [65.80.162.26] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: The necessity of mental memes Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> Re: The necessity of mental memesDate: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:52:52 -0500
> "Wade T. Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>Hi Joe Dees -
>
>>perception and action matter completely in your model, and cognition not
>>at all
>
>Interesting. Not that I deny cognition, of course, but, I just don't see
>anything _internally_ memetic about it. I give to cognition what is
>cognition's.
>
>And, my model doesn't deny cognition- it makes it one of three players,
>with perception and action, of memetic behavior.
>
>Hawking might be one of those accidental fortunately unfortunate cases. I
>don't know enough about his physical condition to go on. But, I was under
>the impression his perceptions of eyesight and hearing were not hampered,
>and that the degeneration of his body was not natal, in that he developed
>fully as far as language and intellect were concerned before his
>condition manifested. But, I don't know. Like feral children, people with
>afflictions are unhappy accidents who can help studies of cognition and
>learning.
>
>And, again, compensations.
>
Cognition is the dynamic form, memes are the manipulated contents.
>
>- Wade
>
>
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