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Hello Steve,
Parrots are capable of recognizing abstractions like color and
quantity. See Irene Maxine Pepperberg, 'The Alex Studies' , Harvard
University Press, 1999.
Of course I consider that portion of birdsong acquired from other birds
memetic. Also I believe that even in humans acquisition of some memes does
not require any abstract thinking at all. For example, I had a friend who
had a strange way of emphasizing certain words in her sentences that I
found I had picked up just by hanging around with her.
Ray Recchia
At 08:52 AM 1/19/2002 +0000, Steve wrote:
>Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:00:03 +0100
>From: <salice@gmx.net>
>Subject: Re: sensory and sensibility
>
>>It implies that we have abstracted certain qualities about an object,
>>and have an internal representation of such. Seems like it might be
>>a start.
>
>Wasn't platon already thinking about this? I can remember the
>example of the horses being all different from each other but we
>can all identify them as horses.
>
>Yes, Plato did discuss this in The Republic when he was arguing about
>representation of Ideal forms and their worldly couterparts.
>
>Steve
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