Re: Sensory and sensibility

From: Ray Recchia (rrecchia@mail.clarityconnect.com)
Date: Sat Jan 19 2002 - 11:02:27 GMT

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From: Ray Recchia <rrecchia@mail.clarityconnect.com>
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    Joe,

    At 11:06 PM 1/18/2002 -0800, you wrote:
    > >Salice wrote
    > >Is the 'self' required for memetic processes?

    And you replied

    > >
    >It is necessary for communication by means of a commonly understood,
    >created and arbitrary language (as opposed to instinctual calls).
    > >

    Doesn't the fact that animals can dream mean that they have a self? I have
    less objections to your term 'self-awareness' even though I'm not fond of
    it either. In any case Irene Maxine Pepperberg's work with parrots
    demonstrates that these animals are capable of using words if properly trained.

    Ray Recchia

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