Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id HAA05494 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 19 Jan 2002 07:00:03 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:55:39 -0800 Message-Id: <200201190655.g0J6tda18066@mail2.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [65.80.162.155] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory Perception Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu> <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory PerceptionDate: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:51:35 -0500
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>Much as I would like to agree with you, Douglas, the Bush administration was
>not suggesting in their new assessment of what really threatens the US that
>the threat of low-grade terrorism came from internal sources. Their recent
>concession that truck/boat-borne explosives are more of a threat than
>missiles referred still to external sources of terrorist threats.
>
>I don't follow the shenanigans of the US domestic
>fundamentalists/survivalists etc much, and am not aware of how they are
>evolving. Can you summarize things here?
>
Actually, Islamic terrorists and our homegrown neo-nazi types have been talking to each other on the Internet. They share a hatred for democracy and Jews, and a fondness for Adolph Hitler and his policies.
>
>I think we can build a generic model of terrorism and its accompanying
>dynamics, and that we would find domestic and foreign terrorists to be
>pretty similar. We do have also to remember that not all terrorism comes
>from religious fundamentalist sources, e.g. Bader-Meinhoff (sp?) would have
>to be seen as a 'modernist' terrorist group.
>
>If we could build such a model, we could have an interesting memetic overlay
>for it.....
>
>Lawrence
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
>> Of Douglas Brooker
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 5:21 AM
>> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>> Subject: RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory Perception
>>
>>
>>
>> > >Hands up who thinks Richard's views here have any credence
>> whatsoever?
>> > >Notice the way he uses the term 'we' as though he was personally
>> engaged in
>> > >the destruction of Afghanistan.
>>
>> well, this is how Americans talk. Maybe it could be called the Johnny
>> Carson syndrome (cf: The King of Comedy)
>>
>> > >> <<Also, in the category of the Bush administration calming down
>> and coming
>> > >> to
>> > >> its senses, it has now conceded that missile attacks from 'rogue
>> states'
>> > >> are
>> > >> not the greatest military danger to the US, but that low-grade
>> terrorist
>> > >> attacks (e.g. trucks a la Oklahoma city) are.
>>
>> I think this is very intelligent. It recognises the biggest terrorist
>> threat to the US is from within, from anonymous disaffected citizens
>> who will strike at random.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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