Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id OAA02852 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 18 Jan 2002 14:17:59 GMT Message-ID: <3C482D8F.B2EE537B@awod.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:13:36 -0500 From: "vaughan davidson, cpa" <vaughan@awod.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk CC: "frederic bartek, multidiverse advisor" <fjbartek@yahoo.com>, "fred white, esq" <fewhite@aol.com>, bernd dieterich <bhdieterich@ch.inter.net>, "dan okun, phd" <dokun@unc.edu>, "prescott stevens, pe" <prescott@bluewin.ch>, aaron cosbey <acosbey@telusplanet.net>, "blaine hawkins, cpa" <wbh@hcbcpa.com>, "durwood zaelke, esq" <dzaelke@ciel.org>, "tom wilson, md" <13tom@email.msn.com>, "ted baumeister, iv, global it advisor" <tedbiv@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Islamism References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020116155248.02c41690@pop.cogeco.ca> <5.1.0.14.0.20020117180917.02c4f520@pop.cogeco.ca> <p04320406b86d47bbd937@[192.168.2.3]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------612C75C3EFAEF74DF73446DE" Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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secular states have evolved / emerged naturally via natural selection -
non secular states such as a theocracy (any islamic state) will change
fundamentally -
recall, baruch spinoza, amsterdam, 15th or 16th century, was
excommunicated by the local rabbis from the jewish (sephardic) diaspora
(recently forced out of spain 1492 by queen isabella / fernando) and
became the first successful secular person in europe - heretofore, one
must belong to a religion or be a pagan - christian (catholic) or jewish
as there were no others in europe -
also, islam forcefully dominated from the atlantic (spain north africa)
to india at its peak, and tolerated infidels (non-muslims to include jews
and Christians, Zoroastrians, hindus, Buddhists and taoism -
confucianism) by extracting a poll tax from each - non-muslims were
second class citizens, and subservient / inferior to Mohammedans -
the protestants brought on the reformation, another mutation, emerging an
european christendom with diversity reluctantly -
with american / french revolutions, the first in the world secular state
emerged, and secular democracy penetrated europe - since then,
secularism, combined with the western thirst for change / improvement has
been awesome, and is speedily progressing, leaving the developing world
with its monoculture (islamic or confucian) dictatorships - natural
selection naturally "selects" secularism so go with it !
islam requires obedience / submission to the clerics whereas western
behavior is secularly democratic - islam fights modernity with martyrdom
- islam attempts to control the fuzzy quantum domain unnaturally - islam
is controlled by the clerics who in islamic tradition are placed above
all, and have god's word - the clerics who are in the muslim world are
the final word on all physical (logos) phenomenal matters and
non-physical spiritual thoughts (mythos) -
islam is unsustainable without a paradigm shift of secular democracy is
empirically and scientifically 'artificial selection' inexorably the
looser to natural selection -
vaughan
"Francesca S. Alcorn" wrote:
> Why the democracy meme won't fly with fundamentalist Islam. Just
> thought I'd throw this in the mix.
>
> http://www.worldpress.org/europe/0102dagens.htm
>
> Frankie
>
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