Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id JAA02448 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:41:08 GMT To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Islamism X-Remote_Addr: 144.82.34.91 Message-Id: <E16RVSU-000Iy2-00@oceanus.uk.clara.net> From: Douglas Brooker <dbrooker@clara.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:37:14 +0000 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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> >From: "Francesca S. Alcorn" <unicorn@greenepa.net>
> >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> >To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> >Subject: Islamism
> >Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 22:33:33 -0500
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> >Why the democracy meme won't fly with fundamentalist Islam.   Just
> >thought I'd throw this in the mix.
It seems to have worked in Iran.
do you consider 'democracy' to be a single meme?
In other countries you may want to look at the reasons regimes are able 
to continue their hold on power.  Much of the Islamic world is divided 
into countries created by the West, so their lack of national coherence 
seems to invite 'strong person' leaders, who are proped up with Western 
military aid.
> >http://www.worldpress.org/europe/0102dagens.htm
> >
> >
> Thanx. And I thought imperialism was a "Western" trait. Yet on this 
site an 
> apt quote from Bassam Tibi: "The goal of the Islamists is a new 
imperial, 
> absolutist Islamic world power."
how is this different than the goals of the fundamentalists who now 
control the American Government?  Do people like Falwell speak for all 
of Christendom?
It seems fundamentalists Islamic and Christian - and Jewish have a lot 
of common traits, in memetic terms. (a subject that's been done here 
before I think)
More interesting, relevant memes here are the fear of the other meme, 
or the group-bonding-so-we-can-have-emotionally-pleasing-experiences 
meme.
Douglas
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