Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id IAA02234 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:39:18 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:34:50 -0800 Message-Id: <200201180834.g0I8Yo802290@mail17.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [65.80.160.162] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: Modes of transmission Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu> <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> RE: Modes of transmissionDate: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:12:36 -0500
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>Hmmmm... I don't think anyone here has said there is a one-to-one
>correspondence between modes of transmission and modes of transmission. As I
>did say, we treat the latter as a subset of the former. Different
>taxonomies. There is a general correspondence between the two, as
>transmissions to be useful have to be coded in ways that the recipient can
>perceive.
>
>Lawrence
>
Please reread your above, then rewrite it, so that I may respond to what you meant rather than what you said.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
>> Of Joe Dees
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:56 PM
>> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>> Subject: RE: Modes of transmission
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
>> <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> RE: Modes of transmissionDate: Wed, 16 Jan
>> 2002 16:07:53 -0500
>> >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>> >
>> >Hi, Joe -- I'm not sure what you are 'refuting.' Are you saying that the
>> >categories you are proposing on don't have sensory and brain-functional
>> >correlates?
>> >
>> >
>> >> >In designing memes, we specify the means of transmission to be
>> >> used, and, as
>> >> >a subset of this, which sensory channel(s) will be used.
>> These correspond
>> >> >generally to your four categories, Joe: auditory-tonal,
>> auditory-digital
>> >> >(e.g. words, phrases), visual, kinesthetic (touch/emotional feeling),
>> >> >gustatory (taste), and olefactory (smell).
>> >> >
>> >> >If the content of the meme is demonstrated (your 'show'?),
>> several of the
>> >> >sensory channels can be involved.
>> >> >
>> >> >Lawrence
>> >> >
>> >> One comment to refute this: ASL (American Sign Language) is
>> >> communicated visually, verbal discourse is communicated
>> >> auditorily, and braille is communicated tactilely. All are
>> >> categorized under the communication mode, telling or saying.
>> >>
>> I am refuting the fallacious notion that methods of transmission
>> correspond to, and can be mapped onto, modes of perception in a
>> one-to-one manner.
>> >
>> >
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