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I'm not sure, lost in the plethora of replies, who made the statement I copy
at the end of this email, but I would suggest that equating the deaths from
Sept 11 and those from US military action in Afghanistan is a symptom of the
political and moral problem that the US has created for itself:
We rightly denounce the terrorist deaths at the WTC and Pentagon as those of
criminal, evil people. But the US actions are those of a government, of a
government that claims to be moral and good, and the government of a people
and country that wish to be moral and good. To compare one set of deaths to
another, based on the numbers of dead, is a disservice to those of us who
belief in the morality of the US, for it lowers the actions and motives and
moral standard of our government to those of the terrorists.
It is one thing to criticize the political and legal elements of US
government actions (as I do) and another thing to imply that the moral
standards of terrorists are good enough for us.
Statements like the one below give comfort to those who assert that we are
no better than the terrorists. Talk about toxic memes!
Lawrence
> <You need to reference your opinion with facts. as of now, the
> death toll from the WTC atrocity is 2939; no credible source dares claim
> that an equal or greater number of Afghan noncombatants have died
> in the US
> reponse against the Taliban and Al Quaeda there.>
> see: http://www.cpm.mmu.ac.uk/jom-emit
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