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At 10:02 PM 16/01/02 -0500, <AaronLynch@aol.com>
> wrote:
>>In a message dated 1/16/2002 10:19:25 AM Central Standard Time, Keith
>>Henson
>><hkhenson@cogeco.ca> writes:
>>
>> > >Yes, certain vulnerable people will respond very positively to
>>attention,
>> > no
>> > >matter where it comes from, but this doesn't mean they've lost all
>>control
>> > >over their own beliefs.
>> >
>> > I think there are such people. Some of them recently flew airliners
>>into
>> > the WTC. I cite Jim Jones' cult, the Heaven'g Gate cult, the Aum
>>Cult,
>>and
>> > the Solar Temple as just a few such cases. Any time you see people
>>doing
>> > seriously counter survival acts or neglecting their children for some
>> > cause, their minds have been parasitized.
>>
>>Hi Keith.
>>
>>I'm sure you have also noted the evolutionary psychology connections of
>>beliefs in a sexual paradise for "martyrs." It is as though someone told
>>the
>>WTC attackers to go take a flying consummation, and they took it dead
>>seriously.
>
>If you want to try to understand what is going on with memeoids in some
>attempt to keep it from happening again, realizing that it is an indirect
>effect of reproduction (sex drive) is essential. It is not just the 70
>some odd virgins they were promised, it is the rewarding brain chemicals
>from the attention they got and the anticipation of the fame they would get
>after doing the deed.
>
>It would be *most* interesting to see how the genes of the 19 hijackers
>fare. My bet is that the additional kids their brothers have as a result
>of their fame more than makes up for them being turned to ash.
>
>Sadly.
>
>Keith Henson
>
It seems to me the martyr syndrome (at least as it relates to al queda and
the Taliban) is based on ignorance. The way to fight it is education. Have
Hollywood start producing movies that illustrate what it would really be
like to live with 70 giggling teenagers all competing for your attention and
pouting when they don't get their own way. Once their vision of heaven
takes on some reality, they won't want it anymore. ;-)>
Grant
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