Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id NAA04786 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:16:14 GMT Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3102A6D1CF@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Lamarckian? Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:49:55 -0000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Filter-Info: UoS MailScan 0.1 [D 1] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Yes, many congrats indeed!
Vincent is a really nice name for a boy :-)
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> From: Chris Taylor
> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2002 11:41 AM
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> Subject: Lamarckian?
>
> > By the way, congrats Chris with your son... Cheers!
>
> Ta :)
>
> I'd like to address this often tacit assumption that meme evolution is
> kind of Lamarckian. I remember Dennett analogising about crabgrass and
> bluegrass competing for dominion in his yard, to represent competing
> ideas in his mind; the important bit here is the idea that there are
> many copies (ok grass grows clonally a lot but try to ignore that :\ )
> of each 'organism' rather than two competing entities.
>
> This is why meme evolution is really Darwinian, without the need for
> acquired characteristics - there are many copies of a meme, probably
> successive 'generations' fly by in our heads without any awareness, but
> because every time we 'look' we see a meme, very similar to the last
> one, we call it the same and assume it has acquired any changes rather
> than them having occurred between successive rapid generations.
>
> I reckon...
>
> Plus, this appeals because we could construct a Darwinian 'learning'
> machine (effectively a sort of neural genetic algorithm) much more
> simply than a Lamarckian version (which must have a facility to learn
> for a start). Maybe if AI used GAs we'd be A-OK.
>
> And if the AA used GIs...
>
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> http://bioinf.man.ac.uk/ »people»chris
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