Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id EAA03998 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 9 Jan 2002 04:19:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.110.248.206] From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: playing at suicide Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:14:39 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <LAW2-F18himfY3xDMrE0001b662@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2002 04:14:39.0998 (UTC) FILETIME=[284929E0:01C198C4] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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>On Tuesday, January 8, 2002, at 02:40 , Grant Callaghan wrote:
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>>It's not just good to fit in, it's a need
>
>That might well be true. Probably is.
>
>Which usually leads me to wanting to know what culture is, apart
>from behavior around needs like these...? And how, (do we need a
>how?), to separate or distill memes from this?
>
>And then, thinking these things, I get all flopped over to the
>'memes are bunkum' side of the fence for awhile. So far, a few
>encounters with folks from the other camp leaves me on top of
>the fence again....
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>- Wade
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>
Culture is the accumulation of memes over time. Needs are why we borrow,
invent, use, and discard them. When a baby cries, mommy sticks a nipple in
its mough. The need is satisfied. That was a meme he used. When it
doesn't work anymore, he stops using it. He finds new memes that work
better. That's the process in a nutshell. At least, that's my theory.
Grant
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