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From: Grant Callaghan <grantc4@hotmail.com>
> The child finds the adoption of the cultural norms of his society valuable
> by allowing him to fit in and become a part of it. There is a genetic
need
> to belong to a tribe and religion or a belief system is one of the things
> that defines the tribes to which we belong. Not fitting in causes fear
and
> anxiety. Not having a tribe can kill you.
Hi Grant,
Can 't agree ! The child did not adopt anything, he is, like Wade said
trained, indoctrinated with "belief -systems " about how to live his life
and to what kind of God he should pray to !
In cases like this, I take my own personal life as example to contradict
your assumption. There is, and I do know that for sure no genetic need
inside me to belong to a group, I do not belong to a tribe or to whatso-
ever. I feel no fear nor anxiety, I am a ' loner ', absolutely !
And yet, there was no need, nor a desire to kill myself... others, is a
whole new ballgame !!
If of course, belonging to a group includes being part of the working-
class, than I belong to a group, than I am a piece of a greater whole,
but than again it is not with my content !
Regards,
Kenneth
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